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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Dec 2, 2024 8:58:38 GMT -6
What about Neal Brown from WVU? Not great at WVU, but very successful at Troy. Some folks just aren't meant for the bright lights but accel at our level. If we're going after him we better speed up our process.
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Post by cardfan on Dec 2, 2024 9:09:06 GMT -6
I’m just hoping Mitchell is being a steely eyed bad ass on this one and is playing every card he’s got. Have to get this one right.
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Post by williamtsherman on Dec 2, 2024 9:56:01 GMT -6
I think your biggest problem with Mitchell is that he hates, hates, HATES the new world of transfers and NIL and only acknowledges and deals with it to the extent that he absolutely has to. He yearns to go back to the old days where sleazy NCAA bureaucrats created and ran a system that was to their liking, and played to their strengths of self-righteousness and hypocrisy. But what you need is a coach who can energetically navigate and deal with the new reality. I don't think Mitchell would have any idea how to recognize and talk to such a coach. Mitchell will probably follow the recommendations of some search outfit or committee that he chooses because they tell him what he likes to hear. If you get a coach who effectively and aggressively deals with transfers and NIL, that will be strictly an accident.
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Post by comet on Dec 2, 2024 10:12:22 GMT -6
I’m just hoping Mitchell is being a steely eyed bad ass on this one and is playing every card he’s got. Have to get this one right. Don't recall having seen Mitchell at the WBB game yesterday, so I would assume he was out interviewing
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Post by villagepub on Dec 2, 2024 10:35:11 GMT -6
The old Tennessee Titans coach, Jeff Fisher, serves as an analyst for Tennessee State, an FCS school. This sounds like a side gig for him, but maybe he'd like to have the challenge of being an HC.
Have Blaine Bishop go talk with him. Maybe Bishop could talk him into a stint in Muncie.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 2, 2024 10:53:38 GMT -6
For Faulkner, Haines or Stockton, their seasons are likely to last another month or more. Seems to me Haines' position is most integral to his team; the other two less so. Rob, is Mitchell willing to wait that long for the guy he wants? My assumption would be he'd want someone on the job ASAP to begin recruiting players and staff. My own personal opinion is I don't mind waiting for the right guy, and I like a guy who's dedicated to his current job, not just looking forward to his next position ... even if that does put us behind schedule. Personally, I still like the idea of the successful lower division HC. Mitchell wanted a head start but did say the search would be extensive and there would be countless hours of interviews
I have been in personal contact since June with Faulkner.. We are not boys or friends we just message each other. He asked for help from a social media side. I liked his message the one time I did meet him I saw him bring back a ton of alum to an event. He wants it he has interviewed and he is confident. What I dont know is it his agents or Mitchell holding it up if eddie is the choice
Haines I got one guy that has lain down on a sword swearing it haines
Stockton like I said was talked about early but nor lately
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Post by redbirdman on Dec 2, 2024 12:29:09 GMT -6
The problem with hiring anyone who has not been a HC is who are they going to get as assistants.BSU's problem with those hires will be money to attract any coach who has been an assistant more than 5 years because we can not pay them enough. I also think that CMU & Massachusetts will attract better people than us because I think they will pay more. Also don't be surprised if another MAC HC job opens up within the next couple of weeks that also will get better candidates due to better pay & football name.
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Post by chirprising on Dec 2, 2024 12:58:30 GMT -6
I think your biggest problem with Mitchell is that he hates, hates, HATES the new world of transfers and NIL and only acknowledges and deals with it to the extent that he absolutely has to. He yearns to go back to the old days where sleazy NCAA bureaucrats created and ran a system that was to their liking, and played to their strengths of self-righteousness and hypocrisy. But what you need is a coach who can energetically navigate and deal with the new reality. I don't think Mitchell would have any idea how to recognize and talk to such a coach. Mitchell will probably follow the recommendations of some search outfit or committee that he chooses because they tell him what he likes to hear. If you get a coach who effectively and aggressively deals with transfers and NIL, that will be strictly an accident. If you're an Athletic Director, that is now part of the job description. No way around it and the only hope for these AD's and university presidents is if Congress comes in and puts some kind of regulation over the current system. But that means you'd be trading one group of sleazy bureaucrats who run a system to their liking, while indulging in self-righteousness and hypocrisy for another.
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Post by universityjim on Dec 2, 2024 16:54:35 GMT -6
I think your biggest problem with Mitchell is that he hates, hates, HATES the new world of transfers and NIL and only acknowledges and deals with it to the extent that he absolutely has to. He yearns to go back to the old days where sleazy NCAA bureaucrats created and ran a system that was to their liking, and played to their strengths of self-righteousness and hypocrisy. But what you need is a coach who can energetically navigate and deal with the new reality. I don't think Mitchell would have any idea how to recognize and talk to such a coach. Mitchell will probably follow the recommendations of some search outfit or committee that he chooses because they tell him what he likes to hear. If you get a coach who effectively and aggressively deals with transfers and NIL, that will be strictly an accident. If you're an Athletic Director, that is now part of the job description. No way around it and the only hope for these AD's and university presidents is if Congress comes in and puts some kind of regulation over the current system. But that means you'd be trading one group of sleazy bureaucrats who run a system to their liking, while indulging in self-righteousness and hypocrisy for another. Remember the narrative! If you take a job in the BSU Athletic Department you must be incompetent AND your average FCS, D2, D3, NAIA or NJCAA school offers a more attractive job than our woesome FBS program.
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Post by redbirdman on Dec 2, 2024 19:18:41 GMT -6
I read about App State fired coach Shawn Clark he may be someone to consider as well. His record at App State was 40-24 in 5 yrs includes a 3-1 bowl record. He got fired after his worst season 5-6. He is 52 & was an App St OL. He spent 2yrs as GA at Louisville, 3yrs as OL coach at Kent & 4 yrs at Purdue as OL coach so he has spent time in our area.He was making around $950,000 so that could be a problem but could easily be determinded.
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Post by coastalcard on Dec 2, 2024 19:58:17 GMT -6
I read about App State fired coach Shawn Clark he may be someone to consider as well. His record at App State was 40-24 in 5 yrs includes a 3-1 bowl record. He got fired after his worst season 5-6. He is 52 & was an App St OL. He spent 2yrs as GA at Louisville, 3yrs as OL coach at Kent & 4 yrs at Purdue as OL coach so he has spent time in our area.He was making around $950,000 so that could be a problem but could easily be determinded. No, no, no. Clark is a very nice guy but an absolute turd coach. He rolled them downhill so slowly that App didn’t even know the pot was boiling He is a deer in the headlights on the sideline Watched about 5 games/yr and it started to become too painfully obvious to ignore
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Post by mattg on Dec 2, 2024 20:01:49 GMT -6
The problem with hiring anyone who has not been a HC is who are they going to get as assistants.BSU's problem with those hires will be money to attract any coach who has been an assistant more than 5 years because we can not pay them enough. I also think that CMU & Massachusetts will attract better people than us because I think they will pay more. Also don't be surprised if another MAC HC job opens up within the next couple of weeks that also will get better candidates due to better pay & football name. Jason Candle to Purdue?
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Post by CallingBS on Dec 2, 2024 20:21:23 GMT -6
The problem with hiring anyone who has not been a HC is who are they going to get as assistants.BSU's problem with those hires will be money to attract any coach who has been an assistant more than 5 years because we can not pay them enough. I also think that CMU & Massachusetts will attract better people than us because I think they will pay more. Also don't be surprised if another MAC HC job opens up within the next couple of weeks that also will get better candidates due to better pay & football name. Jason Candle to Purdue? Seriously? Who in their right mind would hire Candle right now? He could not have possibly botched this season any more than he did.
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Post by cardfan on Dec 2, 2024 20:40:50 GMT -6
Can’t imagine they’ll settle on Candle. He lost to freaking Akron this year. They’ll get better candidates than him.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 2, 2024 21:19:09 GMT -6
Candle is a shining example of a coach who has 500k to an extra mill ion than everyone else every year.. He gets the best players the coolest stuff but when it comes coaching them esoecially in the biggest games he fails. We better hope Toledo never getsva good c os coach if they do its lights out
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