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Post by dancingcharlie on Nov 25, 2024 15:40:06 GMT -6
Flick saw some polar bears by Pulaski’s candy store.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 25, 2024 15:46:07 GMT -6
Odd that an essential sport would have such trouble attracting anyone to the games. Students & fans will show up if you win! Look at IU this year & our Cards with Hoke was top 25 - sold out vs. WMU!! So 16 years ago we had good attendance with a top team.
2 good years after years of struggle, 10 wins in 3 years, how was attendance then?
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Post by dancingcharlie on Nov 25, 2024 17:08:26 GMT -6
We get it 000hmh, for business reasons we are moving to D3 with the University of Chicago (who we are well below academically) where athletics will still be a black hole but even more so because we will lose out on TV revenue, conference payouts and multimedia rights contracts. This all seems to make sense to me. Honestly at that point just go and shut the whole thing down and turn the Scheumann Indoor into the 50M pool the Muncie community wants. That way we can make some money off of something in athletics.
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Post by coastalcard on Nov 25, 2024 18:30:27 GMT -6
I really don’t understand the alleged importance of wanting to hang on to FBS status.
You are stuck watching an inferior team play inferior opponents in an inferior conference with the 50% hope of winning 6 games and playing in an inferior bowl game.
How satisfying is that?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 25, 2024 18:52:52 GMT -6
interviews have began
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Post by grass on Nov 25, 2024 19:11:15 GMT -6
I really don’t understand the alleged importance of wanting to hang on to FBS status. You are stuck watching an inferior team play inferior opponents in an inferior conference with the 50% hope of winning 6 games and playing in an inferior bowl game. How satisfying is that?
From our friends at ChatGPT what it means to drop:
Significant perception and psychological impacts on various stakeholders, including the institution itself, players, fans, alumni, and the broader community.
The act is seen as a step backward or an admission that the university could not succeed at the FBS level. This can harm the school’s reputation in athletics and, in some cases, even its academic standing if athletics is tied to the school’s identity.
Media may frame the move as a failure or downgrade, potentially impacting public support.
Alumni donations may decline if supporters perceive the program or school as less prestigious or engaging.
The prestige of FBS football often drives economic and cultural activity. Dropping to FCS may reduce game-day excitement and economic benefits for local businesses.
The move could cause a micro or macro identity crisis, leading to doubts about the school’s ability to compete on a national stage in other areas. Media coverage would focus on the “drop” as a failure, potentially exacerbating negative public perceptions. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 25, 2024 20:14:05 GMT -6
Chat robot BS.
Might apply to schools who actually are capable of competing or who aspire to P4/5 status.
Ask the robot about the benefits of being a middling member of lowest FBS conference.
Then ask yourself if any of the benefits apply to BSU.
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Post by CallingBS on Nov 25, 2024 20:29:58 GMT -6
We get it 000hmh, for business reasons we are moving to D3 with the University of Chicago (who we are well below academically) where athletics will still be a black hole but even more so because we will lose out on TV revenue, conference payouts and multimedia rights contracts. This all seems to make sense to me. Honestly at that point just go and shut the whole thing down and turn the Scheumann Indoor into the 50M pool the Muncie community wants. That way we can make some money off of something in athletics. You can make a lot of arguments, but if your selling points are "TV revenue, conference payouts, and multimedia rights contracts" you are very unfamiliar with the financial realities of the MAC. |
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Post by CallingBS on Nov 25, 2024 20:30:51 GMT -6
That's encouragingly (my made up word for the day) very fast. |
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Post by cardfan on Nov 25, 2024 20:41:02 GMT -6
That's encouragingly (my made up word for the day) very fast. Very encouragingly. |
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Post by coastalcard on Nov 25, 2024 21:03:50 GMT -6
I follow East Carolina football closely. Mike Houston was first coach fired this year. His record at ECU was less than stellar but his stints at Lenoir-Rhyne and then FCS James Madison were impressive. He would probably have some assistants to bring along. When he was hired it looked like a no-miss selection. May beed a reset to make it back to the bigger time
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Post by nazcard on Nov 25, 2024 23:14:42 GMT -6
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Post by southpaw63 on Nov 26, 2024 4:09:53 GMT -6
Is it time to rethink corporate sponsorship for the stadium? I.e going back to the papa johns rumors.. forgive my ignorance on this question though.. this was before my time and I do not the ins and outs Papa John’s offered to build a new stadium, however it would need to be called Papa John’s Stadium. Our policy at the time was that facilities would not be named after a person/business. Thus Papa John’s Stadium at the University of Louisville! Sad, but another Ball State f-up! That's the story I had heard. The reason I brought it up though.. maybe it's time we engage in some of those types of boosters to get an NIL collective started. Two things we are going to need going forward.. a better fan experience (not just the product in the field even though that's the main part) and an NIL collective. Having 3 major football teams in indiana makes it tough for a mid major like bsu to compete for fans. And maybe we can't change that narrative but it's worth a shot of getting folks for like Indianapolis up to the games. (Please don't wake me up from my dream yet it's a good one) we make the cfb team 12 playoff every year too. 🤣 |
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Post by grass on Nov 26, 2024 5:42:04 GMT -6
Chat robot BS. Might apply to schools who actually are capable of competing or who aspire to P4/5 status. Ask the robot about the benefits of being a middling member of lowest FBS conference. Then ask yourself if any of the benefits apply to BSU. Marketing benefits aside, dropping football, basketball, or any academic programs, to a lower level, will absolutely leave a blemish on BSU. It would be somewhat recoverable, or maybe not. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 26, 2024 7:28:56 GMT -6
Chat robot BS. Might apply to schools who actually are capable of competing or who aspire to P4/5 status. Ask the robot about the benefits of being a middling member of lowest FBS conference. Then ask yourself if any of the benefits apply to BSU. Marketing benefits aside, dropping football, basketball, or any academic programs, to a lower level, will absolutely leave a blemish on BSU. It would be somewhat recoverable, or maybe not. There are always pluses and minuses with a choice. MVC schools are doing pretty well We'd have good chances to compete in FCS. Still enjoy FB in the Fall. But the point is we don't have much choice. CFB is changing. |
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