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Post by chirpchirpcards on Mar 15, 2021 13:31:39 GMT -6
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Post by villagepub on Mar 15, 2021 15:24:11 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 15, 2021 17:38:08 GMT -6
I think this board could probably raise enough money for Whit's $37.53 buyout if we all dig through our couch cushions. Would not bet on it...Would buy beer and chips, watch NCAA tourney. |
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Post by bsu0 on Mar 22, 2021 7:59:42 GMT -6
Whit should quit and go into hiding
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Post by lmills72 on Mar 22, 2021 20:23:58 GMT -6
Something about going into hiding made me think of Groundhog Day.
That would be an excellent tradition to start at BSU. Sometime after the end of the season, Mearns and Goetz (dressed in top hats of course) would drag Whitford out of his den in Worthen, hold him up to the amassed throng (which these days means 3 people) and declare that he ... A) has seen his shadow and will receive an extension, or B) that he hasn't seen his shadow and a new coach is on the way.
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Post by halftime on Mar 23, 2021 4:51:52 GMT -6
Something about going into hiding made me think of Groundhog Day. That would be an excellent tradition to start at BSU. Sometime after the end of the season, Mearns and Goetz (dressed in top hats of course) would drag Whitford out of his den in Worthen, hold him up to the amassed throng (which these days means 3 people) and declare that he ... A) has seen his shadow and will receive an extension, or B) that he hasn't seen his shadow and a new coach is on the way. You would have to figure out a way for Mearns to virtue signal and publicly display his epic wokeness or he would never agree to do it. Maybe you could tell him it's a fundraiser for the Geoffrey Mearns Center for Hurt Feelings and Phony Outrage. |
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Post by villagepub on Mar 23, 2021 8:03:45 GMT -6
I heard that Mike Woodson and Thad Matta are front runners.
Some rumors say that Matta was offered, but offer was contingent on physical, and he did not pass. Nothing confirmed. Just rumor.
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Post by cardfan on Mar 23, 2021 8:23:29 GMT -6
That rumor has been vigorously refuted.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 23, 2021 8:23:55 GMT -6
I heard that Mike Woodson and Thad Matta are front runners. Some rumors say that Matta was offered, but offer was contingent on physical, and he did not pass. Nothing confirmed. Just rumor. If the choice is Matta or Mike Woodson that is a bit like our bringing back Ray instead of a resurrected Rick Majerus. Woodson is a coach with school history and great ties to old time alums, but not a coach who has achieved any really great results and a questionable way in my mind to return to real glory. |
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Post by cardfan on Mar 23, 2021 8:26:59 GMT -6
I’m not sure Woodson could replicate what Howard has done at Michigan. Can Woodson convince guys on the recruiting trail. Would his hiring merely placate “Iu guy or bust” people without winning much more than they have been?
Doubt he’d leave Alabama but Oates is the guy I’d throw all the money at.
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Post by villagepub on Mar 23, 2021 9:48:39 GMT -6
I’m not sure Woodson could replicate what Howard has done at Michigan. Can Woodson convince guys on the recruiting trail. Would his hiring merely placate “Iu guy or bust” people without winning much more than they have been? Doubt he’d leave Alabama but Oates is the guy I’d throw all the money at. Would cost IU $20m+ to buy out Oats' Alabama contract (new extension). After the Archie Miller buyout, I doubt there's much interest in burning more cash, then having to afford a blue chip coach. |
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 23, 2021 11:11:15 GMT -6
I’m not sure Woodson could replicate what Howard has done at Michigan. Can Woodson convince guys on the recruiting trail. Would his hiring merely placate “Iu guy or bust” people without winning much more than they have been? Doubt he’d leave Alabama but Oates is the guy I’d throw all the money at. Matta would be a safe choice and one likely to turn the Program in a healthy direction. Maybe have a really good assistant ready to carry on when he retired. There are a lot of good young coaches, not sure any can satisfy the IU faithful. They are crazy after all.
One article I saw makes a great case that the IU fan base is a giant negative to any new coach, deterring many excellent choices from looking at the job. Who wants the grief? Every good program has high expectations and tough unreasonable alumni to deal with, but IU takes the cake when it comes to entitlement and expectations. A bit like Michigan football.
Oates or several other young guys would certainly have a chance to hit a home run at IU. Or to lay an Archie Miller size egg. IU is becoming a graveyard for coaches.
Oates at Alabama is on a big stage already in the SEC and if he can maintain some success, doesn't even have to produce a champion, he not only will be well appreciated, well paid, but a lock to move to a top program on his terms. If he has a mediocrebad team at Alabama in the SEC, he is still in line for good jobs. IU may not be the program to stake your career on.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 23, 2021 11:16:29 GMT -6
I’m not sure Woodson could replicate what Howard has done at Michigan. Can Woodson convince guys on the recruiting trail. Would his hiring merely placate “Iu guy or bust” people without winning much more than they have been? Doubt he’d leave Alabama but Oates is the guy I’d throw all the money at. Would cost IU $20m+ to buy out Oats' Alabama contract (new extension). After the Archie Miller buyout, I doubt there's much interest in burning more cash, then having to afford a blue chip coach. I think they can find money. Not sure they can do it without digging a big hole with long term contract. Miller took a chance on IU, not just IU taking a chance on a young coach. Gets a good pay day without reaching all the lofty goals. They may have to spend like that on any coach, it is not a sure thing to become a legend there... And. The coaches know they have the money.
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Post by villagepub on Mar 23, 2021 15:26:04 GMT -6
Would cost IU $20m+ to buy out Oats' Alabama contract (new extension). After the Archie Miller buyout, I doubt there's much interest in burning more cash, then having to afford a blue chip coach. I think they can find money. Not sure they can do it without digging a big hole with long term contract. Miller took a chance on IU, not just IU taking a chance on a young coach. Gets a good pay day without reaching all the lofty goals. They may have to spend like that on any coach, it is not a sure thing to become a legend there... And. The coaches know they have the money.
If they were to buy out Oats' contract, they will have sunk over $30m into clearing the way and acquiring him. Then the have to match, our make better, his current contract with Alabama to get him to Bloomington. That's $3.225 annually for 6 years. IU was paying Miller $3.5M base annually plus bonuses. Oates wouldn't come for less then $3.75M or $4M per year. Possible $54M outlay to get a new coach for 6 years? Sure. $10M is already sunk, but I don't see it. |
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Post by cardfan on Mar 23, 2021 15:29:10 GMT -6
I think they can find money. Not sure they can do it without digging a big hole with long term contract. Miller took a chance on IU, not just IU taking a chance on a young coach. Gets a good pay day without reaching all the lofty goals. They may have to spend like that on any coach, it is not a sure thing to become a legend there... And. The coaches know they have the money.
If they were to buy out Oats' contract, they will have sunk over $30m into clearing the way and acquiring him. Then the have to match, our make better, his current contract with Alabama to get him to Bloomington. That's $3.225 annually for 6 years. IU was paying Miller $3.5M base annually plus bonuses. Oates wouldn't come for less then $3.75M or $4M per year. Possible $54M outlay to get a new coach for 6 years? Sure. $10M is already sunk, but I don't see it. Yeah I gotta agree. Only way it happens is if something less got negotiated. Still have to think coaches still alive in tourney are targets though. |
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