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Post by villagepub on Jan 17, 2023 6:23:13 GMT -6
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Post by connecticutcard on Jan 17, 2023 21:12:10 GMT -6
By the way, what's the best pick Ballard has EVER made at a high-value position? I'm having difficulty even thinking of any candidates. Leonard I agree RB is not a high value position in todays NFL, but Taylor arguably makes it a value position. Hooker is a heck of a safety and has done well for Cowboys, too bad Colts couldn’t keep him. Ballard hasn’t had to pick a center with Kelly, so can’t really knock him on that. Agreed, he hasn’t drafted a LT or QB1, probably the 2 highest value positions and probably gets to the root of why most think he hasn’t done well. Raimann graded well this year, took some time to get up to speed. Pittman can be an all pro. They get stroud, Nolan smith, and some tackle depth and pencil them right back as division favorites. |
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 17, 2023 22:10:42 GMT -6
I don't see everything going great next year.
You're right Raimann is probably OK. Nelson, and line can be much improved. Have to hit on the rookie QB and find help elswhere using cap space.
Every QB in draft has some issues, GM would have to give up a lot to go #1 and then could get what he wanted, best pick. Still not work out...
Coaching decision and rebuilding staff has to be as important as draft.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 18, 2023 18:44:28 GMT -6
I don't think it's generally realized just how bad the colts roster is. Football Outsiders DVOA ratings has them dead last....#32. And I think that's accurate. A couple close wins and the tie at Houston kept them away from the #1 pick. Ballard hit on a few picks (mostly at the lowest value positions) but his overall concept is so god-awful terrible that he ended up with the worst roster in the league.
If you are a NFL GM for 6 years and you have the worst team in the league, then you should be fired. It's really that simple. I might also mention that the colts had the third best injury luck in the league this year and were still the worst team. People talk about "impatience" with firing decisions on higher level sports management positions like GM and coach, but it's the exact opposite. Those positions are usually given way too much slack because the people who should be firing them are the same that hired them...and the egos of the decision makers make them hate, hate, hate admitting a mistake.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 18, 2023 19:22:05 GMT -6
But that's this year's fiasco in stat form. At end of last year same stats on performance made roster more top 10-15 maybe.
Lost equivalent of 2 or 3 of top 6 players large part of the year. Defense had enough depth to survive.
Screwed the pooch not building O line depth where that was the theory bringing the QB who needed at a minimum exactly what we ended up lacking, great RB and line, To somehow overcome that he had no time to wait on rookie LT who ended up OK. Which might not have been enough with the rest of the line all performing worse than last year and no explosive runner.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 18, 2023 20:56:30 GMT -6
GM did well enough with D.
The error in thinking about draft and team building debatable. The execution that was really bad was outside draft with expensive failure at free agent QB and not really carrying out the idea they had neglecting or whiffing on OL, receiver, free agents.
I never saw quick fix in QB draft. There isn't one that's certain this year.
Reich bet on the latest free agent QB. GM and owner went along. It lost big. It wasn't all owner or GM ego.
On top of it the line they built disintegrated this year. It made all injuries related and mission critical and concentrated. Their work around the loss at QB bound to fail then.
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Post by connecticutcard on Jan 18, 2023 21:15:00 GMT -6
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Post by connecticutcard on Jan 18, 2023 21:17:27 GMT -6
Coaching decision and rebuilding staff has to be as important as draft. Yep! 💯 |
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Post by lmills72 on Jan 18, 2023 22:28:23 GMT -6
Not sure what role Irsay has actually had in many of these decisions over the past several years, but my speculation from afar would be that he's over-reacted a whole lot (on QBs and coaches) and is now under-reacting in keeping Ballard.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 18, 2023 22:38:46 GMT -6
Something of a perfect storm last year.
I do not expect total rebuild but see a new coach, big change, surrounding another but different gamble for QB. This one a bigger gamble in terms of variability, but more upside. More costly to get that.
The old plan and the new one may be in an unlikely marriage this year. The new QB will need time.
Draft for upside but at "lucky" best a year or more away. Let's hope a winner not a bust and one who doesn't have to die to prove it.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 18, 2023 22:59:36 GMT -6
Not sure what role Irsay has actually had in many of these decisions over the past several years, but my speculation from afar would be that he's over-reacted a whole lot (on QBs and coaches) and is now under-reacting in keeping Ballard. Irsay owns the team. Short time frame. Ultimately controls finances. Total top to bottom very very hard to pull off in short time. You rule that out, it's hard to imagine not trying to use resources you have, it isn't just ego. |
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 19, 2023 16:23:25 GMT -6
An option not give up anything to trade up. A year needed and maybe an experienced bridge QB with similar game if as expected development goes slowly with the pick.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 19, 2023 17:09:40 GMT -6
The issue with Richardson is not so much that development might go slowly but more that it may never happen. It would be extraordinarily stupid to pick a QB rated in the 20's when you have earned the #4 pick and you are absolutely crazy desperate for a QB.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 19, 2023 19:47:42 GMT -6
The issue with Richardson is not so much that development might go slowly but more that it may never happen. It would be extraordinarily stupid to pick a QB rated in the 20's when you have earned the #4 pick and you are absolutely crazy desperate for a QB. If Colts rated him that low, you are right. We want more. He'd be available at their next pick. The article was along the right line of matching a HC able to get the best staff.
If they get a coach lined up and an OC and the draft evaluation by GM, coach and OC is better and all that matches up together, I'd trust that process more than any rating service we have on line.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Jan 19, 2023 20:56:58 GMT -6
An option not give up anything to trade up. A year needed and maybe an experienced bridge QB with similar game if as expected development goes slowly with the pick.
That is a terrible idea. Richardson hasn’t shown enough to be a high first rounder. Morris might end up being good, but he has a lot of question marks. |
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