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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 3, 2022 9:52:27 GMT -6
We might talk someone into playing at worthern but big names at worthern are not ever really going to happen regularly. There is no positive for a big school doing that.
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Post by zonebuster on Oct 3, 2022 10:12:16 GMT -6
Just listened to the interview. It has me excited for the start of the season. Looking forward to seeing the improvement in the returning players. Sparks & Sellers should be All-MAC performers. What will Coleman 2.0 look & play like? Guard play should be vastly improved. Which recruits will surprise us? Lack of front court depth could be a challenge at times. But, hoops season can’t get here fast enough!!
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Post by mjtcpa on Oct 3, 2022 15:17:37 GMT -6
Just listened to the interview. It has me excited for the start of the season. Looking forward to seeing the improvement in the returning players. Sparks & Sellers should be All-MAC performers. What will Coleman 2.0 look & play like? Guard play should be vastly improved. Which recruits will surprise us? Lack of front court depth could be a challenge at times. But, hoops season can’t get here fast enough!! I have a similar perspective. Whit's teams were an annual disappointment. I got used to it. For the first time in many years I have some real interest and optimism in this program. I have a true interest in seeing this team play. This could seriously be a really fun team to watch. I know that there are imperfections. I understand that the schedule is marginal. I understand that the roster may be thinner than what we would like. I really don't care if, or why, it took Lewis 18 years to get his first head coaching job. I don't care. So what? This is the team and staff that we have. Time that we see what they can do. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Oct 3, 2022 15:35:29 GMT -6
The scheduling issues could be because so many schools are pissed at Lewis for turning down their head coaching positions.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 3, 2022 19:40:17 GMT -6
I don’t know if we’re going to be good bad or ugly but I do know that we will not be mediocre under whit so that’s all I need. If we suck and continue suck three years in I hope our future AD is quick to strike and move on
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Post by mjtcpa on Oct 3, 2022 19:52:18 GMT -6
I don’t know if we’re going to be good bad or ugly but I do know that we will not be mediocre under whit so that’s all I need. If we suck and continue suck three years in I hope our future AD is quick to strike and move on Exactly. |
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Lewis
Oct 3, 2022 20:07:33 GMT -6
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Post by lmills72 on Oct 3, 2022 20:07:33 GMT -6
That's just fact not attitude. IMO, he should show fight in the scheduling and challenge the bigger programs to play at Ball U.! Not act like we just aren’t good enough for them to play in !Muncie. Challenge the status quo. I think this is the track to take. We need to announce to any of the Butlers of the world still on our schedule that we're going big-time and we just don't have room on our schedule for their puny little small-time teams. That'll teach somebody. |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Oct 3, 2022 20:15:21 GMT -6
Just listened to the interview. It has me excited for the start of the season. Looking forward to seeing the improvement in the returning players. Sparks & Sellers should be All-MAC performers. What will Coleman 2.0 look & play like? Guard play should be vastly improved. Which recruits will surprise us? Lack of front court depth could be a challenge at times. But, hoops season can’t get here fast enough!! I also just listened and I am also excited. This is the most excited I’ve been for BSU basketball in a long time. Bring on Earlham! I worked with an Earlham alum a few years ago and I currently work with a Depauw alum, so I hope we dont get Michigan Tech’d. |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 3, 2022 20:43:40 GMT -6
I don’t know if we’re going to be good bad or ugly but I do know that we will not be mediocre under whit so that’s all I need. If we suck and continue suck three years in I hope our future AD is quick to strike and move on I seriously doubt we will be terrible. Even this year. In the first years we saw Whitford really suffer from lack of experience as a HC, so I suppose that is possible here, but unless we suffered critical injury, I don't see it. Much less 3 years of terrible.
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Lewis
Oct 3, 2022 20:49:30 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 3, 2022 20:49:30 GMT -6
I was waiting for this and it’s exactly what I expected and my question is why not? With the portal and transfers if you can’t have your team competing at or near the top of your conference smart odds say your never going to. That’s how we ended up in the whit debacle in the first place
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Oct 3, 2022 21:00:32 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Oct 3, 2022 21:00:32 GMT -6
I was waiting for this and it’s exactly what I expected and my question is why not? With the portal and transfers if you can’t have your team competing at or near the top of your conference smart odds say your never going to. That’s how we ended up in the whit debacle in the first place Smart odds say everyone in the conference has a better chance to contend for those reasons. The portal and transfers may make the dream of MAC domination even harder than it has been.
Good coaching can get us a better than average chance in more than our share of years, I think that those smart odds are not about never making it, or somehow achieving dominance and always having chances, but more about having those good chances more than our share of years.
Whitford for whatever reasons really got off to a terrible start and in only a few years had chances, never went into a tournament with what we'd call a good chance. This coach can do better than that.
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Post by bsu1 on Oct 4, 2022 5:06:18 GMT -6
I can honestly say this year I have hope, something that has dwindle under Whitfotd. We may not ne great this year but I have hope.
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Post by williamtsherman on Oct 4, 2022 6:21:15 GMT -6
There would be no excuse at all for being terrible, which I define as 300+ KenPom rating. In recent years, the worst MAC teams have been in this range.
As dismal as the way-too-long Whitford festival of excuses was, he did not leave the roster in terrible shape. And as has been mentioned, the new world of the transfer portal allows a good recruiter to fill holes with experience talent immediately.
It does not appear that Lewis has put himself in a position to be terrible, given that he retained the players he needed to retain and made respectable additions. But if somehow the bottom falls out and BSU is terrible, that would take some really poor coaching and I think we would know what kind of coach we have after one season. Of course, BSU would drag it out for a ridiculous length of time (and our resident IU fans would make endless excuses throughout that period).
Anyway, I think the likelihood of terrible is pretty remote, but you just never know. But we will certainly know a lot about Lewis after 1 year, excellent or terrible or somewhere in between. But as usual, people will fight tooth and nail to believe their preferred thing no matter what the season shows.
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Oct 4, 2022 6:39:56 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Oct 4, 2022 6:39:56 GMT -6
But if somehow the bottom falls out and BSU is terrible, that would take some really poor coaching and I think we would know what kind of coach we have after one season. We agree it is very unlikely we are terrible. You're in the camp that says the coach is always the reason for poor outcomes, but there are other factors. Some beyond the control of coaching staff.
I believe you may, for example, ASSUME no serious injury issues to say that only poor coaching is a possible explanation for poor results. We might still escape being terrible with good coaching with a few injury or discipline issues, but with so many newcomers, it will take very good coaching to put together a better than average team with all hands on deck.
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Oct 4, 2022 7:42:07 GMT -6
Post by williamtsherman on Oct 4, 2022 7:42:07 GMT -6
But if somehow the bottom falls out and BSU is terrible, that would take some really poor coaching and I think we would know what kind of coach we have after one season. We agree it is very unlikely we are terrible. You're in the camp that says the coach is always the reason for poor outcomes, but there are other factors. Some beyond the control of coaching staff.
I believe you may, for example, ASSUME no serious injury issues to say that only poor coaching is a possible explanation for poor results. We might still escape being terrible with good coaching with a few injury or discipline issues, but with so many newcomers, it will take very good coaching to put together a better than average team with all hands on deck.
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