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Post by cardfan on Oct 26, 2022 18:58:42 GMT -6
Can’t see Blazek being ready to make the kind of difference we need. I think he’d make some good throws but I’m guessing he’d make too many mistakes too. And I don’t think blazek would be able to do much to help the oline create actual holes for Steele. He’s the same pocket passer that Paddock is, just taller, so there’d still be no rpo threat. A radical change would be to put together a package for Kelly and shake things up. Let him create some things and force defenses to account for him. Get the heat off Steele. Use him like UT used Finn in spots last year. But, we all know Neu would never do that. Justin Hall was as close as Neu would get to that.
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Oct 26, 2022 20:36:13 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 26, 2022 20:36:13 GMT -6
Can’t see Blazek being ready to make the kind of difference we need. I think he’d make some good throws but I’m guessing he’d make too many mistakes too. And I don’t think blazek would be able to do much to help the oline create actual holes for Steele. He’s the same pocket passer that Paddock is, just taller, so there’d still be no rpo threat. A radical change would be to put together a package for Kelly and shake things up. Let him create some things and force defenses to account for him. Get the heat off Steele. Use him like UT used Finn in spots last year. But, we all know Neu would never do that. Justin Hall was as close as Neu would get to that. Amen |
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Oct 26, 2022 22:15:32 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 26, 2022 22:15:32 GMT -6
This sounds like the Colts situation, except our running game has been better.
Two issues.
Kelly has to be able to pass or it's kind of a wash. And he would make mistakes too.
I don't see Kelly a long term answer. If that's the logic for change, go with the passer.
Not that I would unduly trust a coach's judgment, but I can see why we're probably going to see no change.
Might make sense to have a Kelly package to use. Not sure what the mix or situation.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 26, 2022 22:39:06 GMT -6
This sounds like the Colts situation, except our running game has been better. Two issues. Kelly has to be able to pass or it's kind of a wash. And he would make mistakes too. I don't see Kelly a long term answer. If that's the logic for change, go with the passer. Not that I would unduly trust a coach's judgment, but I can see why we're probably going to see no change. Might make sense to have a Kelly package to use. Not sure what the mix or situation. Kelly can pass though he has a very strong arm. He just is not a stand back there and wait qb. He is going to look and if it’s not there he is going out of the pocket still looking downfield. If it’s still not there he is running. Like CF said think Daquan Finn. The problem with that he is going to make mistakes force throws gets sacked etc etc try and do too much. As a coach you have to decide does the possibility of a homerun outweigh the negative |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 26, 2022 22:45:14 GMT -6
Blazek is your typical pro style guy like Paddock but bigger. Bigger arm Bigger in size but if our line does give him time he’s dead. paddock knows the offense better no reason to make that change unless Blazek has shown he’s far better than paddock in practice.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 26, 2022 22:53:35 GMT -6
And you can’t make the change to Kelly without changing the playbook and basically your whole philosophy cause if you put him back there and tell him don’t run dont move that’s not going work either it’s not his game or skill set
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 26, 2022 23:00:37 GMT -6
We did use the rpo stuff a bit more with paddock and Riley but lynch would need to go further. Just watch any game any team that does not run a full 1970-2000 pro style offense which is about 75% of college football.
The only time we leave 1990 is when we go tempo which I love. Now mix in rpo with the tempo and you have something dynamic. The problem is it’s incredibly hard to do it right.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 26, 2022 23:04:33 GMT -6
Cobb right now is pure running QB. He is run first every play. Now he can wind up and throw one 60 yards but he’s always going to look to run first. He’s gotta fix the mechanics learn to pass correctly etc etc
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Post by BSUMike on Oct 27, 2022 3:42:14 GMT -6
Cobb right now is pure running QB. He is run first every play. Now he can wind up and throw one 60 yards but he’s always going to look to run first. He’s gotta fix the mechanics learn to pass correctly etc etc I was wondering about Cobb because he almost never gets mentioned, but was actually our highest rated QB coming in. It certainly sounds like no major changes coming this year, and likely no change at QB next year unless there are changes in the coaching staff. Lynch is a super nice and good guy, but it might be time to try something new. |
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Post by grass on Oct 27, 2022 5:07:23 GMT -6
Cobb is described as a pro-style QB, who led his HS team to a state championship, and chose BSU over Boston College, Missouri, WV, Vanderbilt, and the other MAC schools. With Cobb, Kelly, and Blazek, our QB depth is pretty good - and unfortunately ripe for the transfer portal. Neu knows QBs - he’s focused on they guys(s) who can consistently think through decisions/progressions well. Paddock seems to do well at times, with a fast release. I’m confused at how our receivers are not separating well - or they are and Paddock isn’t finding the right ones. We also have really good talent at WR.
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Post by chirprising on Oct 27, 2022 8:15:38 GMT -6
What RB's have left  ? I think just a couple of walk ons, but couple that with the scholarship kid who left in the spring and we're pretty light there. Basically right now we're just playing Steele and Pemberton, with some spot carries by Jones. Why we don't work Barfield in is a big question. Will he even stick around? I think it was suggested that they move on given what they had at the position…Pemberton is now the #2 running back…not sure why we don’t see Barfield… |
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Post by cardfan on Oct 27, 2022 8:18:09 GMT -6
Paddock has had trouble with progressions and Neu has said as much. He locks on the first option and that’s where he’s going, triple covered or not. We had guys open on the backside of plays vs emu but he never looked their way. If a play breaks down he’s not able to adjust and make something happen. And so the offense breaks down and we punt or he throws a bad pick. He seems to need to see guys open vs throw them open. Thus throws are too often late.
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Post by bsutony on Oct 27, 2022 8:43:57 GMT -6
I think just a couple of walk ons, but couple that with the scholarship kid who left in the spring and we're pretty light there. Basically right now we're just playing Steele and Pemberton, with some spot carries by Jones. Why we don't work Barfield in is a big question. Will he even stick around? I think it was suggested that they move on given what they had at the position…Pemberton is now the #2 running back…not sure why we don’t see Barfield… Pemberton must be better. I think we all make assumptions based on recruiting. Unless we are at the practices its hard to say who should be getting playing time. Pemberton wasn't as highly recruited, but if I remember correctly he had a great senior season in Michigan. He has looked good in my opinion. Especially the last few games. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 27, 2022 9:14:22 GMT -6
I think it was suggested that they move on given what they had at the position…Pemberton is now the #2 running back…not sure why we don’t see Barfield… Pemberton must be better. I think we all make assumptions based on recruiting. Unless we are at the practices its hard to say who should be getting playing time. Pemberton wasn't as highly recruited, but if I remember correctly he had a great senior season in Michigan. He has looked good in my opinion. Especially the last few games. Yes pemberton blew up his senior year it was Chicagoland though(I think) Still time for Barfield he has gotten some run will be number 3 next year |
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Post by grass on Oct 27, 2022 9:15:08 GMT -6
Paddock has had trouble with progressions and Neu has said as much. He locks on the first option and that’s where he’s going, triple covered or not. We had guys open on the backside of plays vs emu but he never looked their way. If a play breaks down he’s not able to adjust and make something happen. And so the offense breaks down and we punt or he throws a bad pick. He seems to need to see guys open vs throw them open. Thus throws are too often late. Good to know. I would think that Neu is close to trying the next in line. Unfortunately, we’re close in our games and still have a shot at a respectable season. With tough games ahead, that could quickly change to no shot - and a change at QB. |
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