dcat
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Post by dcat on Sept 26, 2023 9:38:57 GMT -6
Seems obvious that the OC needs removed. |
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Post by cardfan on Sept 26, 2023 10:27:04 GMT -6
Mike is too loyal to coaches like the Lynches and that loyalty goes way back, and their families are all very close. So, I can't see Mike being willing to axe Lynch. I think he'd rather be fired than having to fire a Lynch.
Our staff is mostly made up of loyalty/connections and a lot of them are from programs like Western Ill. and there's just no pattern of success there. (and, they come cheaper, to be quite honest). It's not a winning formula.
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Post by 00hmh on Sept 26, 2023 10:55:48 GMT -6
Mike is too loyal to coaches like the Lynches and that loyalty goes way back, and their families are all very close. So, I can't see Mike being willing to axe Lynch. I think he'd rather be fired than having to fire a Lynch. Our staff is mostly made up of loyalty/connections and a lot of them are from programs like Western Ill. and there's just no pattern of success there. (and, they come cheaper, to be quite honest). It's not a winning formula. I have little doubt we make a change. But the second part of your post basically means that whatever the blame is on Neu and his ties to particular coaching tree, even changing that probably means we need to increase the budget to attract more expensive, better coaches...a hard sell.
Even worse than BB to try to find money for coaching change at HC, and much worse given the size of a staff, and number of moving parts in a Program.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Sept 26, 2023 11:38:02 GMT -6
Mike is too loyal to coaches like the Lynches and that loyalty goes way back, and their families are all very close. So, I can't see Mike being willing to axe Lynch. I think he'd rather be fired than having to fire a Lynch. Our staff is mostly made up of loyalty/connections and a lot of them are from programs like Western Ill. and there's just no pattern of success there. (and, they come cheaper, to be quite honest). It's not a winning formula. I have little doubt we make a change. But the second part of your post basically means that whatever the blame is on Neu and his ties to particular coaching tree, even changing that probably means we need to increase the budget to attract more expensive, better coaches...a hard sell.
Even worse than BB to try to find money for coaching change at HC, and much worse given the size of a staff, and number of moving parts in a Program.
Were not increasing budget for this staff.. A new staff maybe if the new AD can find it
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Post by rmcalhoun on Sept 26, 2023 11:45:22 GMT -6
For a school the size of Ball State once you get into the inner circles its amazing how intertwined it all is.. I hate to use drain the swamp but its pretty accurate
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Post by rmcalhoun on Sept 26, 2023 11:49:25 GMT -6
I once sent a text message that broke down the webbing of football and just how intertwined it is.. Its wild and could go further depending on how some highschool careers pan out
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Post by rmcalhoun on Sept 26, 2023 11:49:55 GMT -6
Its not just football though its through out the university
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Sept 26, 2023 12:08:12 GMT -6
The AD is not amused.
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dcat
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Post by dcat on Sept 26, 2023 12:09:59 GMT -6
Mike makes north of $650k+ coaching football in Muncie, IN (2021 avg household income $36,661). I can't imagine those jobs are easy to come by. I know I could be very comfortable at that level living in Muncie. Yeah, I'm a little salty at how much coaches make. Sorry, I'm not shedding any tears for Mike. At that rate, Mike has a responsibility to make the needed changes NOW. He's paid enough to set his loyalties aside and do what needs done for the good of the program.
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Post by david75bsu on Sept 26, 2023 12:52:10 GMT -6
In Neu’s time in Muncie he has made north of $5 million. With that investment we have “1” winning season. WOW! I think we all like him, but in terms of the football program he has been a disaster. We need a new coach. We also need a new approach in hiring a coach . We also need a whole new staff. We probably need a stronger budget to higher a stronger coaching staff. Does Ball State have the willingness to do what it takes to build a competitive program. You don’t have to win the MAC every year. But you shouldn’t have a losing program 7 of 8 years either, rather you having a winning program 7 of 8 years.
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Post by david75bsu on Sept 26, 2023 13:06:06 GMT -6
One thing we could also do is schedule like the Power Four Conferences. You schedule four games against lesser teams and then you get into the MAC schedule. Let’s bring in teams like Indiana State, Illinois State, Eastern Kentucky, Western Illinois . play them all at home.They will all be home games. In most cases we win all four. Ball State fans won’t care who we play, only that we play. Than you get into the MAC schedule. You have a winning record. Life is good. If it doesn’t get you to one of the shit bowl games, who cares. They cost money, they don’t make you money. Stop letting ESPN run our football program.
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Post by david75bsu on Sept 26, 2023 13:07:23 GMT -6
It’s time to think out of the box! NO MAC school will every win a national championship in football - NONE!
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Sept 26, 2023 13:26:30 GMT -6
One thing we could also do is schedule like the Power Four Conferences. You schedule four games against lesser teams and then you get into the MAC schedule. Let’s bring in teams like Indiana State, Illinois State, Eastern Kentucky, Western Illinois . play them all at home.They will all be home games. In most cases we win all four. Ball State fans won’t care who we play, only that we play. Than you get into the MAC schedule. You have a winning record. Life is good. If it doesn’t get you to one of the shit bowl games, who cares. They cost money, they don’t make you money. Stop letting ESPN run our football program. Only 1 win against FCS teams counts towards bowl eligibility. ESPN has little to do with the football schedule. They don't care who we play, they just want the late season midweek programming. We play the SEC to slightly offset the huge cost with having an FBS program. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Sept 26, 2023 14:00:20 GMT -6
One thing we could also do is schedule like the Power Four Conferences. You schedule four games against lesser teams and then you get into the MAC schedule. Let’s bring in teams like Indiana State, Illinois State, Eastern Kentucky, Western Illinois . play them all at home.They will all be home games. In most cases we win all four. Ball State fans won’t care who we play, only that we play. Than you get into the MAC schedule. You have a winning record. Life is good. If it doesn’t get you to one of the shit bowl games, who cares. They cost money, they don’t make you money. Stop letting ESPN run our football program. To do that costs us 300k per game and only 1 win towards bowl eligibilty never going to happen |
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Post by david75bsu on Sept 26, 2023 14:05:56 GMT -6
One thing we could also do is schedule like the Power Four Conferences. You schedule four games against lesser teams and then you get into the MAC schedule. Let’s bring in teams like Indiana State, Illinois State, Eastern Kentucky, Western Illinois . play them all at home.They will all be home games. In most cases we win all four. Ball State fans won’t care who we play, only that we play. Than you get into the MAC schedule. You have a winning record. Life is good. If it doesn’t get you to one of the shit bowl games, who cares. They cost money, they don’t make you money. Stop letting ESPN run our football program. Only 1 win against FCS teams counts towards bowl eligibility. ESPN has little to do with the football schedule. They don't care who we play, they just want the late season midweek programming. We play the SEC to slightly offset the huge cost with having an FBS program. Thinking outside the box. An idea. As noted, is it that important to go to a losers bowl? I personally don’t think so - they are also major money losers. If ESPN doesn’t have that much to do with scheduling, why does the MAC play mid-week games? Also, the lower level teams also have their games on ESPN+ or similar streaming platforms. Our crowd, attendance does not change with the level of competition. However, it does change for the better with wins. I’m personally tired of the blow outs and away games against Power Four teams. I’d rather see home games against the likes of Indiana State. |
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