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Post by lmills72 on Nov 20, 2023 20:58:34 GMT -6
Not sure who's argument this might fit but FYI ... Nate Oats was a highly successful high school coach who served just 2 years as an assistant at Buffalo before becoming the HC there. I assume everyone here knows the rest of the story. Yes. A completely conventional success story. A good argument for hiring assistants with high potential. I'm not sure how "conventional" that timeline is. Sure there's Oats and Coach K, who served very little time as assistants before coming HCs, but the more "conventional" timeline would say somewhere between 5-10 years as an assistant before getting an HC gig. And then there are the Mike Lewis and Tom Izzos of the world who waited much longer. I think you might have found that the likes of Oats and Coach K would have done fine without their short times as assistants. I would agree that few young coaches might share the particular qualities of those young coaches and even fewer administrators have the confidence to take that leap and offer them HC jobs without even the limited experience as assistants. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 20, 2023 21:13:14 GMT -6
Yes. A completely conventional success story. A good argument for hiring assistants with high potential. I'm not sure how "conventional" that timeline is. Sure there's Oats and Coach K, who served very little time as assistants before coming HCs, but the more "conventional" timeline would say somewhere between 5-10 years as an assistant before getting an HC gig. And then there are the Mike Lewis and Tom Izzos of the world who waited much longer. I think you might have found that the likes of Oats and Coach K would have done fine without their short times as assistants. I would agree that few young coaches might share the particular qualities of those young coaches and even fewer administrators have the confidence to take that leap. I agree his experience was a question mark. But he had used his tenure very well. Oates was a bit like the Ray McCallum case, and like others where an assistant was very well liked by the players, and/or recommended by the successful departing HC. An AD who has direct observation of a candidate finds it much easier with good reason. With the portal I wonder if Oates would have retained the players he did and had the same success today. I doubt he'd have had the same success straight out of HS on his own record. He worked for a successful college coach who himself had got the job on a fast track and probably had some benefit for that hire succeeding. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Nov 21, 2023 8:31:02 GMT -6
I have to admit that the standard conventional wisdom method of using a search firm and hiring an assistant with a track record DOES reduce the chance of a blunder and produces only thoroughly vetted, safe coaching choices, like Ronnie Thompson.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 21, 2023 8:47:12 GMT -6
I have to admit that the standard conventional wisdom method of using a search firm and hiring an assistant with a track record DOES reduce the chance of a blunder and produces only thoroughly vetted, safe coaching choices, like ___________ On the contrary we avoided conventional wisdom and had Roy Budd and his East coast BB preference in the mix with JAG desire for slick PR and national news access. Ronny sure looked good on the cover of that Press Guide that year. And if you want bold self confidence, and willingness to abandon accepted wisdom, like recruiting Indiana, establishing good alumni relations, mixing with faculty, staff, students and fans...he was your guy. |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Nov 21, 2023 8:47:41 GMT -6
I have to admit that the standard conventional wisdom method of using a search firm and hiring an assistant with a track record DOES reduce the chance of a blunder and produces only thoroughly vetted, safe coaching choices, like He Who Shall Not Be Named. Fixed it for you. |
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