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Post by bsutrack on Mar 18, 2024 7:58:21 GMT -6
I think we all wanted to be as good as Indiana State this past season, but they still lost their conference tournament and were excluded from the NCAA Tournament despite having a 28-6 record, a KenPom ranking of 45, and a NET of 29. In other words, Lewis could potentially improve the BSU program next season as much as Indiana State's coach did this year and if he loses the MAC Tournament still be left out.
And while on the topic of the NCAA Tournament, can anyone explain to me why the first 4 games aren't all for #16 seeds? Two of the games are instead of #10 seeds. Why penalize two of the #10 seeds by making them win another game? You would be better off being an 11 seed and then only needing to win 6 games to win the tournament instead of being one of the two "unlucky" #10 seeds that need to win 7 games.
If you are going to make two #10 seeds win 7 games to win the tournament, why not just make 128 teams do the same and expand the tournament to 7 rounds for 128 teams? With 128 teams, even with conference winners you should be able to get the best 100 teams in the tournament and Indiana State's wouldn't happen. Past the top 100 programs in the country, you don't deserve to be in the tournament.
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Post by villagepub on Mar 18, 2024 8:02:31 GMT -6
Thought it was interesting in the WCC tourney that St. Mary's beats Gonzaga in the championship game.
Gonzaga comes out as a 5 seed in the tourney, but so does St. Mary's. Was Gonzaga considered a 3 or 4 seed prior to the loss?
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Post by universityjim on Mar 18, 2024 8:10:02 GMT -6
I think we all wanted to be as good as Indiana State this past season, but they still lost their conference tournament and were excluded from the NCAA Tournament despite having a 28-6 record, a KenPom ranking of 45, and a NET of 29. In other words, Lewis could potentially improve the BSU program next season as much as Indiana State's coach did this year and if he loses the MAC Tournament still be left out. And while on the topic of the NCAA Tournament, can anyone explain to me why the first 4 games aren't all for #16 seeds? Two of the games are instead of #10 seeds. Why penalize two of the #10 seeds by making them win another game? You would be better off being an 11 seed and then only needing to win 6 games to win the tournament instead of being one of the two "unlucky" #10 seeds that need to win 7 games. If you are going to make two #10 seeds win 7 games to win the tournament, why not just make 128 teams do the same and expand the tournament to 7 rounds for 128 teams? With 128 teams, even with conference winners you should be able to get the best 100 teams in the tournament and Indiana State's wouldn't happen. Past the top 100 programs in the country, you don't deserve to be in the tournament. It's because the 16 seeds normally go to automatic bids who are nowhere close to an at-large bid. The selection committee has no choice on including them. The bubble teams are much stronger teams so the conflict on who gets in with an at-large and who does not is typically with teams in the 10-12 seeds. When they can't decide between two teams they put them both in but basically make one of the two teams earn their way into the field of 64. I look at the field and after watching NC State (who had zero chance at an at-large bid) beat UNC (who was a lock for a #1 seed) and steal a bid, in my opinion somewhat questionably based on officiating and UNC's approach to the game, I think the ACC should have gotten penalized by Virginia (defiantly one of the last four in and probably the last one in) not getting in rather than exclude ISU. NC State beat Virginia in the ACC tournament. That should have been their knock out. That's just my opinion however. |
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Post by redfeather on Mar 18, 2024 9:30:03 GMT -6
Thought it was interesting in the WCC tourney that St. Mary's beats Gonzaga in the championship game. Gonzaga comes out as a 5 seed in the tourney, but so does St. Mary's. Was Gonzaga considered a 3 or 4 seed prior to the loss? . The Zags had a somewhat off year compared to their usual success albeit still a very good year so the loss to St. Mary’s wasn’t a total upset. |
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Post by bsutrack on Mar 18, 2024 9:57:07 GMT -6
I think we all wanted to be as good as Indiana State this past season, but they still lost their conference tournament and were excluded from the NCAA Tournament despite having a 28-6 record, a KenPom ranking of 45, and a NET of 29. In other words, Lewis could potentially improve the BSU program next season as much as Indiana State's coach did this year and if he loses the MAC Tournament still be left out. And while on the topic of the NCAA Tournament, can anyone explain to me why the first 4 games aren't all for #16 seeds? Two of the games are instead of #10 seeds. Why penalize two of the #10 seeds by making them win another game? You would be better off being an 11 seed and then only needing to win 6 games to win the tournament instead of being one of the two "unlucky" #10 seeds that need to win 7 games. It's because the 16 seeds normally go to automatic bids who are nowhere close to an at-large bid. The selection committee has no choice on including them. The bubble teams are much stronger teams so the conflict on who gets in with an at-large and who does not is typically with teams in the 10-12 seeds. When they can't decide between two teams they put them both in but basically make one of the two teams earn their way into the field of 64. I look at the field and after watching NC State (who had zero chance at an at-large bid) beat UNC (who was a lock for a #1 seed) and steal a bid, in my opinion somewhat questionably based on officiating and UNC's approach to the game, I think the ACC should have gotten penalized by Virginia (defiantly one of the last four in and probably the last one in) not getting in rather than exclude ISU. NC State beat Virginia in the ACC tournament. That should have been their knock out. That's just my opinion however. Thanks for the explanation. I realize it's been that way for the past couple of years, but I never understood why. But my further question would then be: why not make all the play-in games #10 seeds? Why make 2 of them instead involve #16 seeds vs. #16 seeds? My knee jerk response is the NCAA is just one screwed-up organization and the whole NIL fiasco just goes to re-enforce that take. |
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Post by david75bsu on Mar 18, 2024 10:52:13 GMT -6
I think we all wanted to be as good as Indiana State this past season, but they still lost their conference tournament and were excluded from the NCAA Tournament despite having a 28-6 record, a KenPom ranking of 45, and a NET of 29. In other words, Lewis could potentially improve the BSU program next season as much as Indiana State's coach did this year and if he loses the MAC Tournament still be left out. And while on the topic of the NCAA Tournament, can anyone explain to me why the first 4 games aren't all for #16 seeds? Two of the games are instead of #10 seeds. Why penalize two of the #10 seeds by making them win another game? You would be better off being an 11 seed and then only needing to win 6 games to win the tournament instead of being one of the two "unlucky" #10 seeds that need to win 7 games. If you are going to make two #10 seeds win 7 games to win the tournament, why not just make 128 teams do the same and expand the tournament to 7 rounds for 128 teams? With 128 teams, even with conference winners you should be able to get the best 100 teams in the tournament and Indiana State's wouldn't happen. Past the top 100 programs in the country, you don't deserve to be in the tournament. Simply put, Indiana State got screwed by the NCAA. Why, they didn’t belong to a Power 5 Conference. |
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Post by universityjim on Mar 20, 2024 8:45:21 GMT -6
We've got to get Mississippi University for Women on the schedule. One of McNeese State's 30 wins this season was against them. Their schedule was 338. Ours was only 330. We didn't play a weak enough schedule. Following the McNeese State plan could net us a 12 seed in the NCAA Tournament.
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Post by bsu1 on Mar 23, 2024 14:18:38 GMT -6
How are Indiana State,'s football facilities? I'd love to have them in the MAC, along with Evansville and Valpo.
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Post by grass on Mar 23, 2024 14:38:58 GMT -6
How are Indiana State,'s football facilities? I'd love to have them in the MAC, along with Evansville and Valpo. ISU football facilities currently suck but I’ve read that they have a vision to either renovate Memorial Stadium or move to a new on campus stadium that looks like Souther Illinois’ new stadium mixed with WKU’s stadium, but on a smaller scale. These are as of 2019 (couldn’t attach all photos - but can be found online). In all cases, FCS-sized. (here is renovated Memorial)  |
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Post by grass on Mar 23, 2024 14:43:28 GMT -6
How are Indiana State,'s football facilities? I'd love to have them in the MAC, along with Evansville and Valpo. ISU football facilities currently suck but I’ve read that they have a vision to either renovate Memorial Stadium or move to a new on campus stadium that looks like Souther Illinois’ new stadium mixed with WKU’s stadium, but on a smaller scale. These are as of 2019 (couldn’t attach all photos - but can be found online). In all cases, FCS-sized. (here is renovated Memorial) View AttachmentChange to Memorial  |
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Post by grass on Mar 23, 2024 14:44:04 GMT -6
ISU football facilities currently suck but I’ve read that they have a vision to either renovate Memorial Stadium or move to a new on campus stadium that looks like Souther Illinois’ new stadium mixed with WKU’s stadium, but on a smaller scale. These are as of 2019 (couldn’t attach all photos - but can be found online). In all cases, FCS-sized. (here is renovated Memorial) View AttachmentChange to Memorial View AttachmentOn campus  |
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 23, 2024 14:50:14 GMT -6
How are Indiana State,'s football facilities? I'd love to have them in the MAC, along with Evansville and Valpo. And why would they want to spend more money on FBS FB? Join in the MAC death spiral? |
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Post by prestonp on Mar 23, 2024 16:14:57 GMT -6
How are Indiana State,'s football facilities? I'd love to have them in the MAC, along with Evansville and Valpo. I would love for BSU to be in the Valley. |
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Post by bsu1 on Mar 24, 2024 5:02:25 GMT -6
How are Indiana State,'s football facilities? I'd love to have them in the MAC, along with Evansville and Valpo. I would love for BSU to be in the Valley. I would love that, too. |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Apr 2, 2024 20:10:44 GMT -6
I went to the semi final tonight and I am officially jealous of ISU. The fieldhouse was packed and I’d estimate it was 90%+ ISU fans. It was electric and ISU is a very good team. They very rarely force a stupid shot. Night and day between us and them right now. And I dont think Sparks alone is going to move the needle enough. We need some guards ASAP.
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