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Post by david75bsu on Apr 6, 2024 5:42:01 GMT -6
So the ISU model is the best we can aspire to? Instead of having a mediocre year andhad half the team leaving piecemeal, we can have an outstanding year and the coach packages himself and entire team to go to the next level. Either way, we are screwed for anything past 12 months. Doesn't really give one much of a reason to be a fan of a mid-major basketball program anymore. This is.exactly my feeling and it.applies to almost.all.sports. Would.not want to be a coach, you have know idea how many players you'll have to replace every year. Takes.the fun.out.of being.a.fan. That's one.reason we.stopped following and going.to Pacer games, you start enjoying players and the next.thing.you know, they are.gone! With that.said, I'm like the Ivy League model - no.scholarships, you play for the fun of the game and to.get your degree from the college you want.to attend. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 6, 2024 5:55:13 GMT -6
So the ISU model is the best we can aspire to? Instead of having a mediocre year and half the team leaving piecemeal, we can have an outstanding year and the coach packages himself and entire team to go to the next level. As opposed to the sportsfan dreamworld we've been living here with BSU basketball. |
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 6, 2024 8:27:13 GMT -6
So the ISU model is the best we can aspire to? Instead of having a mediocre year and half the team leaving piecemeal, we can have an outstanding year and the coach packages himself and entire team to go to the next level. As opposed to the sportsfan dreamworld we've been living here with BSU basketball. There is a good point about mid major success there which bsutrack is pointing out.
The coach obviously "failed" since he didn't win a conference tourney championship and go to the NCAA...They did win their first regular season championship since 2000. But the real irony is that I saw an ISU student publication with headline "End of an Era." It may well be true than an era is now 3 years with two winning teams.
ISU gets some buyout money in the deal. After a good and promising but not great season they extended the coach to increase the amount of the buyout.
The AD made a good move to use a longer term guaranteed contract, gambled on that and won, apparently could not pay premium MVC salary, though. Could not keep the coach but the budget for the next coach is bigger than it would be.
The loss of players, and probably drop in NIL they might have had this next year, they can't do anything about.
The StL salary will be at the top of the conference. Another turnaround like his time at ISU and it will be really big money at his next stop.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 6, 2024 9:08:25 GMT -6
Majerus left BSU after one season with a winning record. Who here looks back with regret?
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 6, 2024 9:34:46 GMT -6
Majerus left BSU after one season with a winning record. Who here looks back with regret? The players did stay. And the very good assistant coach became head coach. That and the results the next year were something ISU is going to miss. Not to mention that Rick did after all not only win the conference regular season, but the MAC tourney and lost their last game to a #1 seed in the NCAA tourney.
The point here is that the ISU case is going to be more a norm where a coach and his recruits can have much less positive impact.
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Post by cardfan on Apr 6, 2024 10:57:08 GMT -6
Majerus left BSU after one season with a winning record. Who here looks back with regret? If Rick took the entire team with him like you can now there’d have been no sweet 16 and continued success. |
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Post by bsutrack on Apr 6, 2024 12:46:22 GMT -6
I think the only model left for success is to find a couple of rich donors willing to put-up a few million $'s per year to purchase a team.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 6, 2024 14:24:46 GMT -6
I think the only model left for success is to find a couple of rich donors willing to put-up a few million $'s per year to purchase a team. winner |
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Post by comet on Apr 6, 2024 14:43:41 GMT -6
So the ISU model is the best we can aspire to? Instead of having a mediocre year and half the team leaving piecemeal, we can have an outstanding year and the coach packages himself and entire team to go to the next level. Either way, we are screwed for anything past 12 months. Doesn't really give one much of a reason to be a fan of a mid-major basketball program anymore. I'd be thrilled to death for that to happen. If we could have the really good year and loose everyone, so be it. Regardless of the coach loss and player losses, look at all the publicity, positivity and attention they've gotten. Even if what you are saying happens, it will take a few years for that excitement and interest to wear off. |
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 6, 2024 15:34:51 GMT -6
I think the only model left for success is to find a couple of rich donors willing to put-up a few million $'s per year to purchase a team. winner Yeah, so would be pooling our annual CVC contributions and buying lottery tickets, a out the same odds of winning. |
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Post by CallingBS on Apr 6, 2024 15:36:56 GMT -6
I think the only model left for success is to find a couple of rich donors willing to put-up a few million $'s per year to purchase a team. winner But it's not gonna happen at BSU |
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 6, 2024 15:40:06 GMT -6
So the ISU model is the best we can aspire to? Instead of having a mediocre year and half the team leaving piecemeal, we can have an outstanding year and the coach packages himself and entire team to go to the next level. Either way, we are screwed for anything past 12 months. Doesn't really give one much of a reason to be a fan of a mid-major basketball program anymore. I'd be thrilled to death for that to happen. If we could have the really good year and loose everyone, so be it. Regardless of the coach loss and player losses, look at all the publicity, positivity and attention they've gotten. Even if what you are saying happens, it will take a few years for that excitement and interest to wear off. It would very likely happen. But it's the hand we're dealt, so as a fan I'd also love to see the success. I still don't like the odds of much extended success. And that next season or two would be no fun. Finding another coach with the same magic is not exactly odds on. |
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Post by coastalcard on Apr 6, 2024 15:50:19 GMT -6
It used to be you could buy a ticket and watch a game.
Now you have to pay for the stadium, buy a player or two, fund the parking lot and pony up for pre and post game player meals.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Apr 6, 2024 17:31:19 GMT -6
So the ISU model is the best we can aspire to? Instead of having a mediocre year and half the team leaving piecemeal, we can have an outstanding year and the coach packages himself and entire team to go to the next level. Either way, we are screwed for anything past 12 months. Doesn't really give one much of a reason to be a fan of a mid-major basketball program anymore. I'd be thrilled to death for that to happen. If we could have the really good year and loose everyone, so be it. Regardless of the coach loss and player losses, look at all the publicity, positivity and attention they've gotten. Even if what you are saying happens, it will take a few years for that excitement and interest to wear off. 2009 burned off the 2008 football excitement pretty fast. You can backslide, but not too much. |
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Post by prestonp on Apr 6, 2024 19:20:38 GMT -6
The 2009 burn out was due to the realty of the coaching staff IMO.
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